Davis Mattek said the Saints are his most-drafted stack on DraftKings simply because every piece is virtually free. Late-round quarterback Tyler Shuck is undrafted in many rooms, Rashid Shaheed hovers in the 160s, and Juwan Johnson often slips past pick 200. Mattek loves that he can grab the entire passing attack for pennies, spend his early picks on premium talent elsewhere, and still finish with a fully correlated QB/WR/TE trio. The low opportunity cost also lets him hit the position in volume—he is overweight New Orleans in his portfolio—and chase the occasional spike week Shuck’s mobility might provide.

Rich Ryan said the Saints are his most-owned portfolio stack because Tyler Shuck and Rashid Shaheed are "practically free" on DraftKings. Shuck rarely cracks the top-200 picks, while Shaheed hovers in the late-14th, yet the electric wideout produced 2.36 yards per route on 20-plus-yard targets last season—seventh-best in the NFL. Ryan notes new OC Klint Kubiak historically calls play-action deep shots at a top-five rate, a perfect match for Shaheed’s 4.3 speed. Pairing Shuck with Shaheed and sprinkling in Juwan Johnson costs less than a single ninth-round wide receiver, freeing capital for early RBs while still capturing an NFC South Week-17 dome shootout. Ryan is already 20 % exposed to the mini stack.

Zachariason labeled Juwan Johnson a “late and rational” tight-end target who rarely gets drafted but could still clear 50 receptions as the unquestioned starter in New Orleans. Because Johnson’s overall draft rate sits in the low teens, a modest 10 % personal exposure already makes a drafter massively overweight versus the field without taking on portfolio risk. Johnson provides cheap correlation with Tyler Shuck or Chris Olave builds and frees capital for upside swings elsewhere. Zachariason contrasted this sensible gamble with truly "irrational" darts like Harold Fannin, emphasizing that Johnson checks every box—projected routes, red-zone role, and a clear quarterback pecking order—at a near-zero cost.

Nick Holz labeled Chris Olave a stay-away despite his youth and talent. Olave’s 2025 outlook is poisoned by what Holz calls "arguably the worst quarterback situation in the league," with Spencer Rattler, 26-year-old rookie Tyler Shough or late-rounder Jake Haener expected to battle for the starting job. Holz doubts new coordinator Clint Kubiak can elevate an offense that already cratered last year. He also flagged major concussion concerns: Olave suffered his fourth documented NFL concussion (fifth since college), forcing him to miss the final nine games of 2024. With an ADP around 76 (6th/7th round) and a DraftKings line of 825.5 yards, Holz prefers cheaper, healthier options and would bet the under on Olave’s yardage.

Jorge Martin flagged Alvin Kamara as a smash pick at ADP 56.4 (RB18, mid-5th round). Kamara’s projection tops 1,300 scrimmage yards with 6 touchdowns, and he is the only proven back in the Saints’ committee. Martin highlighted Kamara’s elite pass-catching floor—57+ receptions in seven of eight NFL seasons—which makes him an ideal Zero-RB or anchor RB target after loading up on receivers early. Martin urged drafters not to overthink and simply scoop Kamara at cost.

Best Ball Guy said the silence out of Saints camp has been broken—Kendre Miller reportedly took first-team reps this week, signaling he’s the inside track backup to Alvin Kamara. BBG expects the market to react fast once beat writers confirm the rotation, projecting an "ADP moonshot" similar to Jaylen Warren’s rise last summer. He wants Miller rostered now in every three-RB room because the rookie’s early-down size (220 lbs) and collegiate pass-catching resume (44 receptions in his final season at TCU) make him the exact contingency profile that explodes if Kamara—now 29 with 1,800 touches—misses time. "Be well prepared, be ready to go," he urged, predicting Miller will cost multiple rounds more once preseason snaps are televised.

Hayden Winks argued Alvin Kamara’s upside is better than the market thinks. Kellen Moore’s uptempo offenses routinely rank top-five in pace, and the Saints boast an above-average offensive line that could keep them functional despite shaky quarterback play. Winks does not see a real challenger on the roster: rookie Devin Neal looks like a "mini Devin Singletary" without a trump trait, while Kendre Miller is talented but inconsistent. That leaves Kamara dominating touches as long as New Orleans stays competitive. Winks added the Saints’ front office "does weird things" and could trade Kamara to a contender such as Dallas or Houston before the deadline—an outcome he called "clearly a good thing" for fantasy. At an RB18 price tag he is pairing Kamara with explosive rookies like TreVeyon Henderson, betting on volume, Moore’s pace boost, and possible trade equity to unlock a top-12 season.

Jakob Sanderson urged drafters to tread carefully with Alvin Kamara at his RB18 price tag. Kamara was a regular-season hero last year but scored almost nothing in Weeks 15-17, and Sanderson thinks that script is likely to repeat. The 29-year-old’s rushing efficiency has been mediocre for several seasons—last year’s small rebound included—and the Saints’ offense now revolves around rookie quarterback Tyler Shough on what Sanderson expects to be a bottom-three roster competing for the No. 1 pick. A new coaching staff has every incentive to evaluate younger backs Kendre Miller and rookie Devin Neal once the season is lost. That sets up Kamara to smash early-season projections only to see his workload evaporate in Underdog’s single-week playoff rounds. Because BBM is decided in Weeks 15-17, Sanderson is fading Kamara in favor of backs with clearer December upside.

Jonathan Fuller called the 2025 rookie quarterback crop flat-out undervalued in superflex leagues and spotlighted Tyler Shough as the clearest arbitrage play. Shough’s rookie ADP routinely fell outside round two, yet any passer who strings together multiple starting seasons returns QB2 dynasty value. Fuller urged managers to spend late rookie picks or modest FAAB on Shough—along with fellow cheap upside bets Jaxson Dart and Jalen Milroe—because a successful camp battle could catapult their trade value overnight.

PPRTyler flagged a camp report that Kendre Miller is already running with the Saints' first-team offense and said drafters should "adjust the ranks" immediately. Miller was one of Tyler's favorite backs coming out of TCU, touting "legendary" college tape and three-down traits. With Alvin Kamara gone and only aging depth behind him, Miller now has a plausible path to an early-season workload spike. Tyler plans to scoop the sophomore in the late rounds of this contest whenever his build is already correlated with New Orleans pieces, calling him a cheap bet on volume that the market has not yet priced in.

Matt Harmon said he keeps drafting Chris Olave because the market has fully baked in the quarterback uncertainty. Harmon noted Derek Carr and Olave "never had good chemistry," yet Olave still ranked near the league lead in most efficiency metrics (yards per route run, first–read target rate). The Saints brought in rookie Tyler Shough, and Harmon admitted nobody knows what Shough will be as a pro, but that unknown is already depressing Olave’s ADP into the late third/early fourth round. Harmon views that price as pure upside: if Shough is even league-average or if Carr rebounds, Olave’s 30-plus-percent target share and elite separation skills give him an easy path to WR1 overall weeks in both season-long and best-ball formats.

Sean Koerner called Rashid Shaheed the quintessential late-round dart at WR 54. Before a Week-6 season-ending injury, Shaheed ranked 22nd in best-ball points per game by simply converting a handful of targets into long touchdowns. Koerner sees no reason that formula changes in 2026: Shaheed remains the Saints’ fastest weapon, and his sporadic usage is perfect for formats that automatically plug spike weeks into the lineup. At his current cost, one or two 25-point explosions easily pay off the investment while any extra volume under Kellen Moore would be pure gravy.

Chris Raybon is loading up on Alvin Kamara, arguing the market is still anchored to the Dennis Allen–Derek Carr malaise and ignoring the offensive overhaul under Kellen Moore. Raybon expects Moore to replicate last year’s Giants blueprint—protect a shaky quarterback with heavy, creative run usage—which vaulted Saquon Barkley to league-winning volume. New Orleans’ offensive line projects better than 2025, the passing scheme should feature more running-back targets, and Kamara’s perennial 70-catch upside separates him from age-peer backs in the RB22–RB25 range. Because Kamara routinely misses only the “standard” three games each season, Raybon sees minimal durability downside and a path to Barkley-like snap counts if Moore leans on the ground game. He recommended drafting Kamara everywhere until the room adjusts to the coaching change.

Peter Overzet doubled down on Rashid Shaheed after citing ESPN analyst Mike Clay’s updated projection of 62 catches, 926 yards and 4 touchdowns. Overzet reminded viewers that line would have landed Shaheed inside last year’s top-30 wide receivers, yet drafters are still letting him slide to roughly pick 150 as a WR6/7. He thinks the Saints offense will be "mostly fine," noting Shaheed already posted 2.59 yards per route run in 2023 and needs only a modest snap-share bump to turn Clay’s forecast into multiple spike weeks. Overzet contrasted the optimism with Clay’s meager 427-yard projection for rookie Pat Bryant, arguing Shaheed is the far superior late-round lottery ticket. With a cheap Week-17 bring-back versus Tennessee and very little roster duplication at his current ADP, Overzet believes Shaheed offers league-winning upside in Best Ball Mania.

Peter Overzet said Rashid Shaheed is still a smash pick in Best Ball Mania drafts, especially when he falls to pick 121 as your sixth wide receiver in a Zero-RB construction. Overzet pointed out that Shaheed is "not even on the PUP list," so the lingering knee worry is overblown. He argued you can comfortably stop drafting wideouts at six when your WR6 carries Shaheed’s weekly deep-ball spike potential, freeing capital for more running-back darts. Overzet also dismissed concerns about a potential downgrade from Derek Carr to rookie Tyler Shough, noting Shaheed only needs a couple of high-value targets to swing a playoff week. With an inexpensive Week-17 bring-back versus Tennessee, Shaheed provides ceiling, correlation and structural flexibility that the room is mis-pricing.

Davis Mattek advised steering clear of Rashid Shaheed despite his highlight-reel 2023 efficiency. Mattek reminded listeners that Shaheed is coming off a knee injury and joked that he now has "Shuck Demon" at quarterback—underscoring the uncertainty around the Saints’ passing offense if Derek Carr falters. With Shaheed’s game built on speed and deep targets, Mattek worries any loss of explosiveness or downgrade in vertical accuracy would torpedo his best-ball spike-week appeal, making him an unnecessary risk at his current WR50–55 price tag.

Rich Cooling advised dynasty managers not to panic about an ugly RB2 slot before Week 1 because veteran volume backs such as Alvin Kamara inevitably become cheap around mid-season. He pointed out that by Week 7 managers chasing wins are usually willing to unload Kamara for a single second-round pick. Kamara’s weekly workload (15-18 touches with passing-game involvement) keeps him in the RB12-RB16 window whenever he is active, and the Saints still lean on him at the goal line. Cooling’s plan is to ride replacement-level options early, then spend that second-rounder on Kamara once bye weeks hit and his current manager gets nervous about age or injuries, securing reliable production for the stretch run without tying up offseason capital.

Whalen is out on Chris Olave at current prices. Multiple concussions plus shaky quarterback play leave him skeptical that the Saints’ offense can feed Olave the down-field looks he needs. Whalen expects Derek Carr’s check-down tendencies to funnel targets toward Alvin Kamara, limiting Olave to volatile WR2 weeks while amplifying risk of another missed-time head injury.

Erickson called Saints to finish last in the NFC South at –105 "low-hanging fruit." He pegged their true ceiling at three wins, noting the roster reminds him of the 2023 Texans team that went 3-13-1 before hitting the reset button. With Tyrann Mathieu already retiring, Chris Olave and Rashid Shaheed dogged by durability concerns and a rookie QB battle between Tyler Shough and Spencer Rattler, Erickson doubts Kellen Moore can salvage much. He prefers laying ‑105 for a last-place finish to paying heavier juice on the under 5.5 wins, and he added that sprinkling "worst record in the league" at 4-to-1 is worth consideration.

Andrew Erickson said the 2025 Saints are a franchise begging to bottom out. He framed 26-year-old rookie Tyler Shuck as a "perfect tank quarterback, the guy you start when you *want* double-digit losses," and noted that GM Mickey Loomis has finally abandoned his annual win-now spending spree. Erickson expects impatient fans to be chanting "Tank for Arch(e) Manning" by mid-October because the schedule starts with several non-NFC-South matchups that could leave New Orleans 0-4 or 1-5. With Kellen Moore taking over a roster thin at both quarterback and wide receiver (Chris Olave and Rashid Shaheed still battling durability questions), Erickson is attacking the lowest win-total tiers on the board and sprinkling a "first overall pick" future at long odds, arguing there is far more downside than upside in 2025.

Best Ball Guy warned that Alvin Kamara is fragile in BBM6 builds because the Saints could be out of playoff contention by December. He pointed out that veterans on bad teams are far more likely to sit with minor injuries – "tight hamstrings" in his words – during Weeks 16-17 when best-ball prize money is on the line. BBG said Kamara would become interesting only if traded to a contender, noting recent rumors after the running back threw out a first pitch in Chicago. Until that happens he is fading Kamara, reasoning that a potential 3-14 Saints record leaves zero incentive for the staff to risk their aging star in fantasy championship week.

Davis Mattek touted Juwan Johnson as a late-round tight-end smash, noting that New Orleans is treating him like its de-facto third wide receiver. Johnson has consistently hovered in the 15-17% target-share range, runs his routes indoors, and now benefits from Kellen Moore’s pass-friendly scheme. Mattek reminded listeners that Johnson finished as the highest-scoring tight end in Best Ball Mania during the 2023 regular season and sees no real competition for intermediate targets—Brandon Cooks and Bub Means are the current depth chart threats. With Moore scheming aggressive down-field looks and Derek Carr’s preference for attacking the seam, Mattek believes Johnson offers weekly spike-week potential at a bargain ADP, making him an ideal TE2 behind an elite anchor or in three-TE builds.

Steve Palazzolo noted that bookmakers already have the Saints as the betting favorite to land the 2025 No. 1 overall pick, citing their bottom-three roster, an unproven rookie quarterback, and a still-suspect offensive line. While the NFC South’s weakness leaves a six- or seven-win ceiling, Palazzolo argued the organization is openly scouting next year’s QB class, a clear signal that internal expectations are low. Bettors looking at worst-record or First Overall Pick futures should recognize New Orleans’ combination of rookie QB volatility, roster holes, and a front office prepared to pivot quickly if 2024 spirals.

Sam Monson laid out the narrow pathway for Spencer Rattler to overtake Tyler Shuck. Rattler’s quick, aesthetically pleasing release should wow coaches during 7-on-7s, but his rookie-year sack rate and general "overwhelmed" look still linger. Monson said the only realistic scenario is a simultaneous convergence: Shuck strings together several "horrific, supernova" mistakes in camp while Rattler stacks flawless reps. Even then, the draft-capital gap (second-rounder vs fifth-rounder) and the organization’s mandate to evaluate Shuck make Rattler a long-shot. Deep-league or best-ball managers can treat Rattler as a speculative stash who will only gain value if Shuck face-plants in August.

Steve Palazzolo said Tyler Shough is better than a 3-in-4 favorite (roughly 75%) to open Week 1 as the Saints’ starter. Palazzolo pointed to three main factors: (1) New Orleans invested a second-round pick in Shough and wants an immediate read on whether he can be a long-term answer; (2) Shough practice tape should look the sharpest—he is 25, processes well, and generally avoids turnover-worthy plays (PFF’s metric shows a low rate, albeit with a few spectacularly bad outliers); and (3) the coaching staff cannot afford to red-shirt him because the roster projects as one of the NFL’s worst, meaning the team is already scouting 2025 quarterbacks. Palazzolo concluded that only a "run of horrific" preseason mistakes, paired with Spencer Rattler catching fire, would derail Shuck. Fantasy drafters in Best Ball or season-long superflex formats should treat Shough as the clear front-runner for early starts, with some volatility baked in by his occasional "supernova" mistakes and a shaky offensive line.

Greg Brainos recommended scooping Rashid Shaheed in the late rounds, stressing that the speedster avoided the preseason PUP list and is "fully healthy." Brainos reminded listeners that Shaheed ranked 6th among qualified wideouts in yards per route run (2.59) from Weeks 7-17 last season and produced six top-24 weekly finishes on Underdog’s half-point format despite running only 64% of the routes. With Derek Carr’s 8.4-yard average depth of target meshing perfectly with Shaheed’s vertical skill set, Brainos expects more full-time usage in 2024. He called Shaheed a classic boom-bust best-ball piece whose spike-week profile is being mispriced around pick 140.

Pat Kerrane said he is treating the Saints as a portfolio fade rather than a stack target. He is underweight on Chris Olave, calling the sixth-round ADP ‘minor-to-medium’ too high for a wideout who “gets hospital-balled every two weeks” and now has rookie Tyler Shuck — whom he ranks among the NFL’s worst starters — throwing passes. Kerrane refuses to double-tap New Orleans in Rounds 5-6, so Alvin Kamara is also off his board at current late-fifth pricing. Rashid Shaheed’s knee recovery, Juwan Johnson’s replacement-level profile, and the lack of a clear RB2 (Kendre Miller, Devin Neal, or a future veteran) leave him with no auxiliary options he actually wants. With beat writers and betting markets projecting the Saints as a bottom-three real-life team, Kerrane prefers a ‘sprinkle’ of Olave and nothing else, accepting that if New Orleans somehow hits he will simply lose to those willing to chase a bleak offense.

Pat Kerrane loves Olave’s profile—his worst season-long yards per route run is a sterling 2.07 and he has cleared 2.0 in all three NFL campaigns after being the 11th overall pick. The problem is everything around him. New Orleans handed the offense to rookie Tyler Shuck, with Spencer Rattler as the fallback, a duo Kerrane called "bad and worse." Kellen Moore’s first-year head-coaching incentives point to a conservative, possibly Arthur-Smith-style run-heavy script to keep the kid quarterbacks from imploding. Add repeated concussion issues and no veteran pivot (Jameis Winston is gone) and Kerrane can’t justify his typical "bet talent over situation" mantra here. He sits at just 4% Olave exposure in Best Ball Mania despite ranking the player slightly ahead of ADP, routinely choosing TreVeyon Henderson or other upside swings in the same pocket. Actionable takeaway: stay underweight Olave until the Saints provide real quarterback competency or his price slips into the mid-fifth round.

After Jon Warner noted that Chris Olave has never topped 20 half-PPR points on Underdog, Peter Overzet pushed back, calling pick 88 an absurd bargain for a team’s unquestioned WR1. Overzet argued you do not need season-long dominance in the six-team Badge Bros Brawl—just a couple of spike weeks—and the upside is still intact even if the career high has not shown up yet. He added that Olave almost never slips this far in normal rooms, so the discount itself is edge enough to justify the click. Bottom line: Pete is happy to bet on Olave’s wide range of outcomes at a round-15 price tag and let the room overreact to last year’s scoring drought.

Jeff Erickson recommended PLAYING the Saints UNDER 331.5 regular-season points. New Orleans scored 338 last year but racked up 91 in the first two weeks before cratering. Erickson expects a further drop-off with raw rookies Tyler Shough or Spencer Rattler battling at quarterback and no clear offensive identity. Even with a healthier receiver room, he anticipates frequent three-and-outs and a conservative approach under a rebuilding regime, calling the under a “strong” wager.

Nick Whalen already bet UNDER 5.5 wins for the Saints at –120 on DraftKings. He called New Orleans’ roster "bleak" after Derek Carr’s surprise retirement left 2024 fifth-rounder Tyler Shough as the presumptive starter. Outside of Alvin Kamara and Chris Olave, he sees little offensive punch, and even Kamara’s lengthy injury history raises depth concerns. Whalen added that spending pick 40 on Shough while still likely needing to draft another QB next year illustrates the franchise’s directionless rebuild. Given limited high-end talent and a defense that lost multiple veterans in free agency, he views six wins as an aggressive ceiling and prefers fading the Saints in season-long win-total markets.

PPRTyler said he likes pairing Alvin Kamara with Chris Olave, calling it his "double-Saints" construction. He noted that New Orleans draws the Jets in Week 16 and the Titans in Week 17—match-ups he called "great for their playoff offense." Tyler acknowledged the only drawback is the lack of an obvious Jets or Titans bring-back, but added that Tennessee "isn't that bad" if drafters want to force correlation. Bottom line: he is actively scooping Kamara when he already has Olave (or vice-versa) to attack what he views as soft fantasy-playoff defenses.

Jorge Martin labeled Chris Olave a draft-day steal, pointing to his deflated ESPN price tag (WR38, pick 97.2) despite being the clear No. 1 option in New Orleans. The Saints permitted 238.6 passing yards and 103.9 rushing yards per game—sixth-worst in both categories—and their five-player defensive draft class did not include anyone before Round 3, suggesting another year of high-scoring, catch-up scripts. Martin acknowledged Olave’s concussion history and the current uncertainty at quarterback but argued those risks are already baked into the cost. With a rebuilding defense likely to keep the offense throwing, Olave has an easy path to outperform his ADP and return WR2 value.

Ben Gretch said Breece Hall’s early-second-round price tag is almost three rounds too rich once you account for the Jets’ environment. Justin Fields turns roughly one out of every five dropbacks into sacks or scrambles, Robert Saleh openly wants 17-13 "rock fights," and New York keeps hyping Braylon Allen and Isaiah Davis as legitimate rotation backs. Gretch projects a capped workload and sees Hall finishing well below the 350-touch threshold needed to pay off his cost. Although Hall’s breakaway ability resembles Saquon Barkley’s, Gretch argued that spike-week talent cannot consistently overcome a muted play volume and committee risk, making Hall a fade at current ADP in both redraft and best-ball formats.

Saints beat reporter Nick Underhill believes rookie Tyler Shough will open 2025 as New Orleans’ starting quarterback. Underhill cited the day-two draft capital spent on Shough and the fact new head coach Kellen Moore personally hand-picked him, indicating the organization plans to build the offense around the rookie rather than journeyman alternatives. In a format where quarterback stability is gold, Underhill’s projection makes Shough one of the biggest ADP risers in the Gamma contest and a priority target for drafters who miss on Cam Ward.

Sixth-round rookie Devin Neal (pick 184, Super Model 65, ADP 215.4) intrigued Overzet right after the draft because of Alvin Kamara’s age and Kendre Miller’s injury history. Once camp buzz painted Miller as the clear RB2, Overzet quit drafting Neal, explaining that it is hard to click a back who still needs an injury just to see the field. Exposure has fallen to 7.2 %, and Neal is now a watch-list name rather than an active target.

Matthew Freedman said Alvin Kamara is an arbitrage smash for drafters who start Zero-RB builds. Kamara is coming off a league-best 93 Utilization Score and projects for 219.7 PPR points in Freedman’s 2025 model – 16.3 points more than Breece Hall – yet Kamara is sitting at RB18 (Round 5) instead of RB12. Freedman expects Kellen Moore’s pass-heavy West Coast scheme to feed Kamara ample check-downs and keep him on the field for three downs. Because the workload, pass-catching chops and projection all outstrip his draft cost, Freedman urged managers to scoop Kamara any time he slips into the fifth round.

Jorge Martin called Chris Olave a glaring value with an ESPN ADP of WR38 (pick 97.2). Olave is the unquestioned No. 1 option in New Orleans—sorry, Rashid Shaheed—and the Saints defense hardly looks capable of keeping games low scoring after allowing 238.6 passing yards and 103.9 rushing yards per game, both sixth-worst in the league. The club spent five draft picks on defense but none before Round 3, signalling a rebuild that should keep Olave in weekly shootouts. Martin acknowledged Olave’s concussion history and the murky quarterback situation yet still sees the third-year wideout outperforming his draft slot thanks to sheer target volume in an offense that will need to throw to keep up.

Mike Wright expressed skepticism that Chris Olave’s new WR26 ADP adequately discounts the growing list of concerns surrounding him. Wright pointed out that Olave’s underlying metrics—yards per route run, target per route rate, and end-zone-target share—all trended downward in 2024, and the receiver is now dealing with lingering injury issues that have already cost him practice reps. With Tyler Shuck stepping into an offense Wright called "bottom third" in line play and overall talent, the path to a true bounce-back feels narrow. He even suggested it is "not impossible" for Rashid Shaheed to outscore Olave if health breaks poorly. Until the market drops Olave another round or two, Wright is inclined to let another manager assume the injury and quarterback risk.

Mike Wright flagged Juwan Johnson as a sneaky late-round tight-end dart now that Kellen Moore is calling plays. Johnson just signed a three-year, $30 million extension—evidence the Saints view him as more than a role player—and he led the team in both slot routes and slot receptions a year ago. Wright emphasized that Moore’s offenses have routinely funneled production to the slot: CeeDee Lamb led the NFL in slot receiving yards under Moore, Keenan Allen averaged the most slot catches per game, and DeVonta Smith scored five touchdowns from that alignment in Moore-designed concepts. With Chris Olave and Rashid Shaheed expected to remain perimeter threats, Johnson could reprise that slot-mismatch role on a roster starved for big, middle-of-the-field targets. Wright called him an ideal TE2 stash who could crack weekly starter territory if the Saints’ outside receivers struggle or if Moore’s scheme repeats its historical slot usage.

Andy Holloway said he is perfectly comfortable drafting Alvin Kamara at his current RB16 ADP, especially in full-PPR formats where Kamara’s reception volume cushions the blow of New Orleans’ suspect offensive line. Holloway noted that Kamara has averaged 5.9 catches per game across his career and has finished outside the top-12 PPR running backs only once when he played at least 13 games. Even in last year’s dysfunctional offense Kamara piled up 75 grabs and ranked third among backs in targets. Holloway does not expect Kellen Moore’s arrival to change Kamara’s short-area role and values the veteran as a fourth-round cornerstone who can give managers a weekly 12- to 15-point floor while the rest of the Saints offense sorts itself out.

Jason Moore advised listeners to leave Tyler Shuck on waivers in typical redraft leagues. He pulled the historical file on Day-2 quarterbacks since 2014—24 names in all—and reminded us that only Jalen Hurts, Derek Carr, and Jimmy Garoppolo have turned into reliable fantasy starters, a 12.5 % hit rate. Shuck faces steeper odds than even that cohort: he never stayed healthy long enough to complete a full college season until Year 6, and now drops into what Moore called a "worst-case" environment—a bottom-third offensive line, no proven target hogs beyond an oft-injured Chris Olave, and a ground game handicapped by that same shaky blocking. Opening dates with Arizona, San Francisco, Seattle, and Buffalo add four top-12 pass defenses to the rookie’s baptism by fire. Moore concluded that even if Shuck flashes real-life promise, the surrounding cast makes anything better than low-end QB2 numbers highly unlikely for 2025 redraft purposes.

Leone loves scooping Tyler Shough as a final-round quarterback when he builds Saints stacks. He believes Kellen Moore’s tempo-driven offense and the presence of Chris Olave and Rashid Shaheed give Shough sneaky fantasy upside. Leone even speculated that, among all the muddled QB rooms (Giants, Browns, Colts, Saints), Shough might own the highest over/under for games started due to a clear path to the job. With an ADP outside the top 200, Shough offers cheap correlation with New Orleans pass-catchers and an easy cut line in redraft leagues if he fails to win the role.

Matt Price said that rebuilding managers should target aging yet still–productive backs like Alvin Kamara during the spring and summer when his market bottoms out. In 2023 you could scoop Kamara for a second-round rookie pick because drafters were scared off by age and suspension risk, yet he stayed healthy and finished RB3 in fantasy points per game. Price expects a similar discount this offseason and believes that buying now lets you either ride the production early or, more profitably, flip him to desperate contenders for a first-round pick once bye weeks and injuries hit in November. The play hinges on the league’s annual pattern of contenders overpaying for locked-in touches down the stretch.

Ron Stewart called Chris Olave the easiest buy-low on the board after the market shoved him from a 2023 WR10 cost to WR37 in the early sixth round. Stewart argued nothing has changed in Olave’s profile except concussion narratives and anti-Saints sentiment. New coordinator Kellen Moore has ranked top-6 in pace and neutral-situation pass rate at every stop, and Mike Clay projects New Orleans 12th in both dropbacks and attempts—light-years ahead of last year’s ground-heavy scheme. The front office dumped resources into the offensive line, giving Moore time to run his vertical spacing concepts even if rookie Tyler Shough starts. Olave’s underlying metrics remain elite: first among the 2022 WR class in yards per route run, tied with Drake London for first in targets per route, and 80-plus percentile reception-perception grades versus man, press and zone. Stewart said Moore’s history of funneling volume to CeeDee Lamb and Keenan Allen points to a 150-target ceiling. If the Saints finish merely league-average in efficiency, Olave can post a top-12 fantasy season at a steep discount, making him a priority in both season-long and best-ball builds.

Pat Kerrane is lukewarm on Chris Olave at his usual early-6th ADP. He noted Olave will be tied to rookie QB Tyler Shough, whom few expect to elevate the offense. Kerrane doubts New Orleans will throw enough in a run-centric scheme to unlock a top-5 ceiling and pointed out Olave has never topped 20 half-PPR points in a single game. Add in multiple past concussions and the downside compounds. Kerrane will gladly click Olave when he falls to the 6/7 turn as his WR3, but otherwise he is passing in favor of receivers attached to better offenses or higher-upside quarterback situations.

Davis Mattek argued that Alvin Kamara still has league-winning upside if a few situational boxes check. Even on mediocre Saints teams he has delivered strong PPR totals, and Mattek thinks 2024 could be the best surrounding context in years. His outs include: rookie QB Tyler Shough merely being passable, the offensive line staying healthy, Chris Olave and Rashid Shaheed stretching the field, and, most importantly, new OC Kellen Moore operating an up-tempo, pass-friendly scheme. If two or three of those break Kamara’s way, Mattek believes Kamara beats his mid-5th/early-6th round DraftKings ADP handily and provides the structural edge drafters want from a zero-RB build.

Pat Kerrane said he is only interested in Alvin Kamara when the veteran falls to the sixth round on DraftKings. Kamara’s pass-catching profile fits full-PPR scoring, but Kerrane noted that the fifth-round opportunity cost is steep because strong wide receivers regularly slip into that range on DK. Unless Kamara’s ADP settles a full round later, Kerrane is largely passing and allocating those clicks to cheaper WRs with comparable or higher weekly ceilings.

JSU called Alvin Kamara a "dust ball" at his early-fourth-round DraftKings ADP and said he will die on that hill. Kamara turns 30 this season, has absorbed roughly 600 receptions and 1,500 rush attempts—about 2,000 hits by JSU’s math—and now plays on a Saints roster he expects to be "really bad." If New Orleans slides out of contention, JSU thinks the staff will shut Kamara down early rather than run an aging back into the ground, crushing playoff-week utility in Best Ball tournaments. He is instead taking backs like James Conner, Chuba Hubbard, and Kenneth Walker in the same range, arguing they carry less shutdown risk and fresher legs.

Rich Rebar reiterated that Chris Olave is a must-have in DraftKings’ full-PPR Best Ball rooms because the volume floor is elite even if touchdowns remain scarce. Rebar expects new OC Kellen Moore to unlock more slot snaps—Olave played a career-low 21% inside last year under two-WR devotee Clint Kubiak—citing Moore’s history of moving his WR1 around the formation. When Olave has been in the slot he has shredded: 2.2 yards per route and a 28% target rate. Rebar forecasted a ‘big first-read’ role that produces multiple 14-target games similar to last season’s 8-catch, 107-yard outburst with Spencer Rattler under center. He conceded Olave’s 55-60% catch rate and modest TD projection curb upside in half-PPR or TD-heavy formats, but in full-PPR contests the steady double-digit target counts turn him into a “glue player” who stitches together weekly scoring while leaving room for spike weeks. Being drafted after the tier of WRs who rely on touchdowns, Rebar views Olave’s current ADP as a glaring market miss in volume-driven formats.